13
Mar
08

“Universal” health care plans of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are, like the Irish plan, universally bad.

The joys of socializm.

Liberals have co-oped the term “universal” in terms of health care to mean socialized medicine without having to actually say “socialized,” since Americans do not support socialism, so they say universal.  Well, everyone wants universal health insurance, because that means everyone has health insurance. When a Democrats talks about universal care the natural reaction is to grab your wallet before they do, naturally.  But you should also worry about your health.

There really is no simpler way to say this than just to say it; when government controls your health care, government controls your life.  Bureaucrats choose who lives and dies, not directly, but by the regulations they write and the restrictions they impose on doctors. 

Government also controls your life by how much money they are willing to spend, let’s face, there is a limited supply. 

A prime example of a health care bureaucracy gone bad (as if there’s any other way they go) can be found in this story from the Irish Times.  Most people don’t realize the significant, life-threatening drawbacks of having the government in charge of what you can and cannot get from your doctor (which, by the way, will always lead to what you can and cannot do because it is deemed “unhealthy”), they focus on the horror stories of private insurance companies totally screwing over people, which they do, just not very often. 

Things that are routine in this country are rare elsewhere, and unless you’ve lived overseas, or really talked to someone who has had a life-threatening disease, you won’t know the truth.  Michael Moore sure as hell isn’t going to tell you because it doesn’t fit his agenda of making the US look bad while making him even wealthier.

Ireland, just like all socialized medicine countries, has waiting times for medical services because, well, to save money, the government controls and rations things.  That means less machines, an inability to run tests in a timely manner, etc., just think of everything lefties say about HMOs and multiply it by 10. 

Now imagine you’re in a system like that, seemingly free (though you’re paying for it through significantly higher taxes), and your doctor thinks you might have cancer.  Terrifying, but tests need to be run to be sure, and before you can start treatment. 

Now imagine having to wait a year and a half to get those tests. 

That’s what’s happening in Ireland.

“PUBLIC PATIENTS can be waiting up to a year and a half for crucial tests to determine if they are suffering from conditions such as bowel cancer, according to new figures.”

There is a reason there is a growing trend toward private hospitals and insurance in socialized countries.

The Health Service Executive said hospitals were working closely with the National Treatment Purchase Fund (NTPF) to cut waiting times. It also said waiting lists were being checked to see if those who were named as waiting longest still in fact required a colonoscopy.

“If the procedure is still required, then patients can be assessed for eligibility for NTPF,” it said. The NTPF can buy treatment in private hospitals for public patients on a waiting list for more than three months.

“If the procedure is still required…”?  That means if they haven’t died yet from our incompetence and one-size-fits-all approach. 

Clinton and Obama have similar goals for our country, a system where everyone is treated the same – poorly.  We need a plan that raises the level of everyone’s care, not one that lowers everyone to the same level of poor care.

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9 Responses to ““Universal” health care plans of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are, like the Irish plan, universally bad.”


  1. March 14, 2008 at 6:39 am

    Interesting article and great site.
    Something to think over – as in the long run it may help improve your health.
    Well I could certainly use it with my current flu symptoms.
    Cheers.

  2. 2 PJ
    March 17, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    The Irish have a VAT (national sales tax) of 21% on goods and 15% on meals that’s how they “pay” for it.

  3. 3 drei
    March 3, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    you really could only find the IRISH system to point fingers at?

    Look at the French, top healthcare system in the world, higher life expectancy and with a system that fits both SOCIALIZED medicine and private insurance as well. Cuz you have to remember, nobody said that we’re scraping private companies if we were to have health insurance. We could have both and that way ease the burden on our GDP, wallets and overall health.

    • 4 Jason
      September 8, 2009 at 1:49 am

      That’s simply not true. If we were to combine private insurance with a public “option”, eventually the majority of people would flock to the public option because it’s “free”. That would drown out the private sector, which is why the public option cannot be supported.

  4. 5 EdKline
    November 17, 2009 at 10:57 am

    I just came across this site and I hate to tell you, here in Ireland we don’t have free government-run or universal health care… if you don’t have health insurance (most of the population do, but it doesn’t cover pre-existing illness and the amount of cover you can get each year is limited) or if you don’t qualify for a medical card (70% of the population don’t) you don’t get health care – end of story. So really not a good model to be pointing a finger at.

  5. 6 Yves GUEZENGAR
    February 20, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    In France We have a universal health care system. And it does work. Nobody would like to change it.

  6. October 13, 2011 at 9:49 am

    You don’t do your research very well, firstfriday. If you read the story from the Irish Times again you’ll see that it’s only UNINSURED people who are experiencing long waits in Ireland. So universal insurance in the US would help to avoid the kind of situation described in that article. Very few think that Obama’s healthcare plan is perfect, but it’s a big improvement!


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