16
Feb
08

Steven Kazmierczak

If you want commentary on this sick bastard, a real, honest look at what might have helped prevent or minimize the damage he inflicted, look here.  The answer is the one answer unacceptable to liberals.

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22 Responses to “Steven Kazmierczak”


  1. 1 Will
    February 16, 2008 at 11:39 am

    The Roman Catholic priest(s) who molested Kazmierczak while he was an altarboy must be found and charged with his crimes.

  2. 2 firstfriday
    February 16, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    If there was one he should be shot, along with anyone else who touches kids, be they priest or liberal radio host.

  3. 3 sketchy41
    February 16, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    The priests need to be held accountable for their actions no matter what, along with all of those sick, fearfilled republicans……..Foley comes to mind for starters!

  4. 4 firstfriday
    February 16, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Which part of EVERYONE who does it are you having difficulty understanding? Just wondering.
    And you should call Florida and pressure them to charge Foley, though you’ll probably have to find someone who says he did something illegal moreso than just weird and gross. While you’d like disagreeing with you politically to be a crime, it’s not.

  5. 5 sketchy41
    February 16, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Gee thanks for the informative narrative. Speaking of finding ‘someone’ to speak, maybe good ole Denny could be tapped, I’m sure they came up with some info in those closed hearings.

  6. February 16, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Ahh, still nothing on stricter gun laws? Although, given his praise as a student and citizen he would of passed the questionare. Nothing on the drugs he was supposed to be taking in order to prevent the meltdown that led to this son of bitchs’ meltdown? When you look at legislation regarding gun laws or high prescription prices, do you ever look at the ramifications that could follow? or do conservatives just say “Fuck it, someone is profitting!”

  7. 7 LLP
    February 16, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    I’m pro gun owners’ individuals rights, but it’s really sleazy and intellectually dishonest to argue this tragedy wouldn’t have happened but for some meaningless “gun free zone.” You’re making some really bad assumptions about the number of people who would’ve had a loaded gun within reach and able to react quickly. Are you guys really such wusses you’d let some silly school policy prevent you from exercising your constitutional rights had you attended NIU?

  8. 8 Jason
    February 16, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    It’s called the second amendment, asshole. You don’t get to pick and choose which parts of the constitution you like, you have to take it all or change it. It can be changed, the founding fathers set it up that way. But you can’t just decide you don’t like a part of it and ignore it, or have a judge do it.

    I don’t like or agree with a thing you say, but I would defend your right to say it. The problem with the left is they wouldn’t extend the same courtesy to my side and are actively seeking to silence people who think differently. Don’t think so? What are speech codes?

    Stick that in your bong and smoke it.

  9. 9 LLP
    February 16, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    “The problem with the left is they wouldn’t extend the same courtesy to my side and are actively seeking to silence people who think differently.”

    LOL, it is the social conservatives who want to censor and silence. They love to regulate personal, private life choices – who you can marry, how to have sex, whether you can buy porn, drink, take drugs, listen to music, burn the flag. You’re just regurgitating a bunch of dated talking points on the fairness doctrine you heard on talk radio.

  10. 10 William Told
    February 16, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    LLP,
    As a contributor here and an Afghan vet, I have a problem with you tone and assumptions. I can’t use my real name because of where I work now, which is the point of this blog, but can assure you that members of the armed forces, even those few who might sympathize with your point of view, do not appreciate what seems to be your mission in life to attack people who support our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our country does not require service to support action, nor does it want it. The men and women with which I served are brave and honorable and chose to do so, none were forced and none regretted their choice. You regret their choice, yet we fight to protect that choice for you. You discredit them and their service by your attempts to undercut their support based upon choices others have made. You, sir, disgrace yourself here.

    And, for your information, of the 11 contributors to this blog, 2 have served, 1 serves now, one couldn’t serve if he wanted to due to an eye injury as a child, 3 are women and the other 4 chose not to. Who writes which post? You’ll never know. Who has the “right,” in your opinion, to express themselves in support of the war? They all do because they are all Americans.

    I suggest you find a new avenue to claim the moral high ground because you simply do not have it on this track. You remind me of the so-called anti-war protesters I’ve come across since my return, self-righteous and secure the freedom to judge and choose you seek to deny others. You, sir, are a douchebag.

    William

  11. 11 firstfriday
    February 16, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Conservatives are not monoliths. Those are social conservatives you speak about. When you see this site rail on those issues you would have a point. Since you haven’t, you are simply desperate and grasping for straws.

  12. February 16, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Wow, so much coffee, and a day off. “asshole”, gee the attacks just keep comin. If regualted miltia means arming half-wits, I am not for it whatsoever. How many incidents do we need before you half-wits stop with the “I’s got second amendment rights bitch!” argument. When laws get passed that serve corporations, and not the people, we have an issue. An issue that liberals and conservatives could/should stand side by side on. Oh, never mind, someone profitted. My bad! The idea the laws allow unstable individuals can aquire arms and perform the acts we all have seen in the last 15 years plus, is cause for alarm. Let me ask, for you “second amendment, god damnit” folk…How safe are you? How many times have you fired that gun? And at what? I have said a thosand time over, start following the money, and see where our, the peoples interest are…the bottom. That’s an issue that Americans can unite on. Oh yeah, with this new horrific act, Captain Asshat (Fred Phelps), and his little cult are planning to protest these funerals as well. I would stand alongside any of you to take on the WBC, then it’s coffee or beers afterword to debate issues of who really hates their country.

  13. 13 Kossack
    February 16, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Billy Boy, I didn’t ask you to serve, the fact that you joined on your own shows a character flaw in you. Why would you choose to serve this fascist war machine? Perhaps because you agree with it, but more probably because you’re trying to make up for your own shortcomings. Serve a fascist then you are a fascist. I will not thank you for your service, I will pity you for your misguided ways. How many innocent people did you murder? Did you get off on it? Bet you and your buddies did.

  14. 14 William Told
    February 16, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Kossack,

    You are much more typical and honest than the other people on your side leaving comments and make my point beautifully, thank you. And I don’t want your thanks. I didn’t serve to get a pat on the back or thanks from anyone. Were it the actual you I were serving I would not have signed up, but I served for the abstract you and everyone else. And for that, you are welcome. Now continue to be an asshole, please, it helps my cause.

    William

  15. February 16, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    William, I was already posting my last rant shortly after yours, so my apologies. In LLP’s defense I will say his “tone” is pretty accurate of vets I hang with and the American public War protester tat learned nothing from the history of the Vietnam era is unfortunate, and I am sorry. A buddy of mine who returned nearly 6 months ago from Iraq is working on a IVAW chapter outside Detroit. He opposes what he experienced, and what his brothers and sisters will still endure. He is supported by local anti-war folk, like myself. The common mistake by liberals who cannot get a grip and conservatives who drink too much Kool-Aid, is going do you go after the soldiers or the policy makers? I am for hitting the latter, of course if you commit an act that breaks laws, you do not get a pass because the country is at war. An act of decency on the courts is respectable, but to what end? and to what example if we are spreading Democracy? Take care friend.

  16. 16 LLP
    February 16, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    William,

    Thank you for your service. I always thank veterans and troops for their service, whether you believe it or not. Your assumptions that I don’t appreciate what our troops are doing for us is groundless. Our soldiers cannot be blamed for Bush’s failed Iraq policy, as our soldiers follow orders from a chain of command independent of the political process.

    I don’t regret their choice to serve at all. Every enlisted soldier is a brave hero and I am saddened to see them treated as pawns by the Bush administration and the neo cons to test their stupid academic theory about nation building in an attempt to establish secular democracies in the middle east.

    As for the FF contributors who haven’t served and who are eligible, I’m asking why they haven’t considered serving (women are eligible, by the way, provided they meet the other requirements – i.e. healthy heterosexuals between the ages of 18 and 41). Do you guys think you are making some productive contribution toward winning by sitting around posting on a forum? You guys think blogging about war makes you personally brave, and compare ourselves to our soldiers by claiming to fight the “war of ideas” or “war at home.” It’s disgusting how you armchair warriors try to compare yourselves to real heroes.

    The 4:15 poster “Kossack” is a neo con pretending to be a liberal. One of your admins saw I posted your url at Kos and registered the name “Kossack.” LOL at thinking you can fool me with this subterfuge.

  17. February 16, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Kossack, I pure example of what makes a message of Peace, Diversity, and Debate look like a fairytale. I was attacked for being “angry”? I am, but I am redefining anger management with my own blog, and taking on an old friend here. On behalf of the middle, I apologize to William, the new anti-war movement, in general, go after the lawmakers

  18. 19 William Told
    February 16, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Wellstone,

    I have no doubt you hang with brother and sisters who disagree with their service, which is their right, but they are not nearly the majority. It’s fine you have no desire to serve, you don’t have to, this is not the day so of serfdom. But you, if you are not the type to call me and my brothers babykillers, are the rare one. You know soldiers who agree with you because those are the ones you seek and who seek you. Like-minded travel in packs and assume they are the majority because it’s all they know.

    My service and discharge were honorable, as was our mission, and is still is. I don’t need anyone to tell me that.

    LLP,

    I do not need, nor do I want your thanks. What other contributors have and have not done or the reasons behind it are their own and not for you to assign. You will assume what you like, but I know them and their character.

    As for Kossack, I saw the incoming link to here you posted on Kos and know the IP address of contributors and those who comment. We do not have any contributors in Vermont. There is no grassy knoll.

    This discussion is done on my end, I have a flight to catch. But thank you for the hits and exposure. Feel free to keep attacking people you know nothing about amongst yourselves and proving my points.

    William

  19. 20 PJ
    February 18, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    LLP, what is a neo con? It is subliminal hate speach used by the Left to associate conservatives with neo Nazis. It is that simple. Conservatives are not Nazis (being of German heritage I have had to endure that hate filled speach more than you can ever imagine). Call a conservative a conservative. This is another example of only caring about the feeling of people you believe are disenfranchiesed not the entire population of this country. You think people on the Right have NO feelings. You need to grow up and stop being so ignorant.

  20. February 18, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Pj, the namecalling and fights…you guys picked! You picked this fight! Your heroes like Atwater, Rove , Norquist, Cheney et al. The comments endured by the left of the last twenty years has been repulsive. The SWIFT Boating, the un-amercian, un-patriotic, socialist, communist, Pinko, terrorist sympathizer, America hater, unemployed drug addicts with no interest in capitalism, my god man, the list goes on and on. You guys made such an art out of these attacks you managed to take “liberal” from the independent thinking individuals that worked hard for labor, gave people minimum wages, two day weekends, public schools, social security etc. T

  21. 22 PJ
    February 19, 2008 at 11:56 am

    Look, two wrongs don’t make a right. I think both sides need to tone it down if we are going to advance as a society. I have no use for the loud talking heads on both sides. I am no fan of Rush Limbaugh (drug addict) or James Carville (anti-Christ). In the famous line from the ’60s… Question Authority. That includes Lefty leaders, too. Don’t take everything you hear or read as gospel. By the way, Liberal means openminded and I have not seen a larger group of closeminded, group think oriented people in my life than the so-called “Liberals” which is why I refer to them as lefties. This group also started calling themselves “progressives” because they know that “liberal” has a negative connotation today. I hate to tell you, but you can’t polish a turd.


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